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- From: jtv@xs4all.nl (Jeroen T. Vermeulen)
- Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
- Subject: Re: Viscorp Deal and Timing
- Date: Mon, 15 Apr 96 00:14:53
- Organization: Leiden University, Mathematics & Computer Science, The Netherlands
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- In article <9604121207.AA008nl@hectortd.demon.co.uk> Paul Copsey <paul@hectortd.demon.co.uk> writes:
-
- > We all know that initially all Escom wanted was the C= tradmarks
- > etc, and that's what they thought they'd got. Then they're told,
- > "Sorry, if you want the name, you have to buy the lot, including this
- > Amiga thing they make, oh, and it'll cost you another 11M" Escom go
- > away and think about it, and decide it's worth it. The sticky point
- > is, not only do they have to agree to take the whole lot, and pay
- > more, but they aren't allowed to sell off the Amiga bit for 12 months.
-
- Others have come up with this theory before you, and it's been discussed very
- thoroughly. In the final analysis there is no other conclusion then that it is
- utter hogwash, although it seemed a plausible assumption at the time, before
- the dust had settled.
-
- Taking over the remains of Commodore took a longer time of preparation, and
- Escom could have held on to the Commodore trademarks they already owned before
- the auction. If anything, they may have used those trademarks as a foot in the
- door to get the rest of the stuff.
-
- Forget Manfred Schmitt saying "I want the Amiga", as we have no direct evidence.
- Also forget, if you want, the presence of a great deal of ex-Commodore staff at
- Escom because it doesn't necessarily mean anything.
-
- But please do keep in mind that Escom doubled their bid when they had _already
- won_ the auction.
-
-
- > So they keep it for 12 months, make lots of noises, spend a bit of
- > cash getting it back on it's feet, setting up production, keeping the
- > market going, until someone comes along who is interested in making
- > something out of what exists, say a set-top box or suchlike, and sell
- > it for a little profit, having held onto the bit they wanted.
-
- Are you saying that there is no relationship at all between the decision to sell
- AT and the complete shift of power in Escom's boardroom mere days earlier? Look
- at recent events if you will. The CEO who first decided to buy the Amiga steps
- down, a new one steps up, and Schmitt is left with only 35% of the shares when
- he used to own more than half.
-
- After a year of aggressive expansion in a promising market, Escom is now
- reducing risks and trying to consolidate its territory in a world that has all
- but stopped buying PCs. Under post-Schmitt management, people who had already
- opposed Schmitt's notion of diversification, Escom radically decides to
- downsize the entire company and sell off its subsidiary AT.
-
- The notion that all this went ahead "as planned" for Escom seems rather
- far-fetched.
-
-
- > I hate to say it, but if this goes through and I'm right about the
- > lack of need for Viscorp to finance development, then it's the end for
- > those of us who wanted a machine which was truely versatile and not
- > completely lumbered by backwards compatibility.
-
- Don't you think the same people who *made* our OS wanted it to be "truely
- versatile"? These aren't just Commodore people, they are Amiga people. The
- same people who helped create the system you know today, notably the man who
- wrote exec. Dreams like the one they turned into reality don't fade that
- easily. The Amiga isn't just a passing fancy; it's something special in the
- General Scheme Of Things. It is also a permanent resident in the lives of many
- people involved.
-
- And what's this talk of "lumbered by backwards compatibility"? It is complete
- nonsense. Even in the worst case, if Viscorp were only interested in that
- single semi-embedded application, that would still require a whole new
- generation of software to be developed and the old generation to be forgotten.
- Backwards compatibility would NOT be a consideration at all--in this worst case.
-
-
- > If I'm wrong (and I hope I am) I'll stick with it, but as far as it
- > looks now, I'm worried that might not be the case.
-
- Stop worrying. You are wrong, you'll be relieved to hear, but confusing people
- with ill-informed doubts is hurting morale unnecessarily.
-
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